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A Recipe for a Literary Nomads Podcast Episode


4 May 2024

What Goes Into a Podcast Episode?

Reader,

A newsletter about time, partly to offer you all a glimpse behind the scenes of producing some of the Waywords content, and partly to sketch out for myself my pattern: perhaps we'll spot something interesting!


One Episode of Literary Nomads

I already know that I do more prep than many podcasts, mostly before recording in reading and research and "curricular" design; many others are guest interviews, more like informal dialogues.

Once a topic for the episode is determined (and these are set in advance--as many as 20 episodes planned together around a single title, itself requiring some planning), I can get to work.

Episode Research: 3-8 Hours

This depends on the episode. The primary text for each season ("To His Coy Mistress" for the current one) requires exhaustive research, often a few books and dozens of scholarly articles, to assemble. Smaller episodes are still several hours, especially if they have other texts attached to them.

These sources are downloaded as often as possible digitally, for reading, annotation, and compilation with a number of tools:

  • PrintFriendly browser extension for downloads (great service, too!)
  • Flexcil app on my tablet for reading and annotating
  • NotebookLM is increasingly valuable to crunch the information and answer questions I may have missed.

Outlining & Writing the Episode: 4-6 Hours

I outline the episode with a few tools:

  • Rocketbook notebook for handwritten maps and brainstorming, an erasable notebook that replaces the need for paper. An app allows me to transfer the notes to online PDFs which--if done well--can also be fed to NotebookLM.
  • Google Workspace for most of my filekeeping, writing, and organizing.
  • ABBYY FineReader PDF for an affordable app that edits and converts PDFs and recognizes text for search and analysis.

I generally write most all of the episode ahead of time, sometimes dictating the "script," which ends up more like a thicker sentence outline. That gives me space to improvise and clarify and create a more natural delivery.

Recording the Episode: 60-90 Minutes

Podcasters understand that the recording itself is often the shortest part! I generally find that, with stops and starts, corrections and revisions as I go, it generally takes me twice as long as the length of the finished episode. I use a fair amount of hardware and software:

  • Audio-technica BP 40 microphone (a nice mic that I'm still learning to use to its potential, though I've found that ATR2100s are solid and affordable mics)
  • Zoom Podtrack P8 for an interface. Overkill for most of my purposes, but it has 8 different mic inputs and I use three (others for my new sound booth and for phone call interface). I also use a Zoom H6 for field recordings. Why Zoom over Podtrak? I started with Zoom before Podtrak was around, and I like the larger SD cards for Zoom. No bigger reason!
  • Cloudlifter pre-amplifier - iykyk
  • Reaper DAW (digital audio workstation) program. Very affordable and more features than I would ever need. It doubles as my music composition editor. I record takes simultaneously on Reaper and the P8 so I never lose anything.
  • Ultraschall open-source software that is designed specifically to work with Reaper as a podcast tool

Editing the Episode: 4-5 Hours and getting faster

I do this is two rounds. First, the master audio edit where I repair errors in my performance, choose best takes, and adjust the audio levels, remove extra noise, etc. That takes about 3-4x the episode length.

The second round is the complete episode. I place the master audio into an episode template I made in Reaper and then add music, chapters and images, SFX, and the like.

Music is almost always composed separately from this section of time. The re-used main themes and variations are all composed and recorded for Waywords by electronic music artist Randon Myles. Former students of mine pre-recorded the transition labels.

Publishing and Posting: ~2 Hours

Once the audio is recorded and rendered with chapter markings, episode art, meta tags, etc. in Reaper, I need to post the audio to a podcast host who handles the storage and RSS distribution and create the website post for the episode along with social media and other cataloguing

In addition to updating all the links, designing episode art, and the like, I also go back to index key terms, texts, and cross-references through a large spreadsheet in my Google workspace, which is read and analyzed again by NotebookLM.

I hope to use NotebookLM is successive stages to coordinate curricula and other content I produce, but never to write or compose: 1) it's bad at it, very bad; 2) I'm not interested in its creative ideas but in ours.

Social Media posting includes the Meta Business Suite and Buffer, along with the individual platforms I have elsewhere.

I make sure everything is posted by Friday at 4 pm EST, if I can, so people have a fresh episode to listen to over a weekend if they wish (and most other literature podcasts post at other times of the week).

Complete 30-45 min. episode production: ~12 to 20 hours. If it hits 16, that's a youch, but it has gone on longer! I'd like to get it down to 8-10, but every trim in time is harder and harder to find.

I don't believe I can "farm out" a lot of it (maybe the posting part), because so much of it is less-usual approaches to literary content. AI has cut several hours in the research side. For instance, if I find a large journal article on meter in ancient Roman poetry that I'm not sure has anything of valuable, I can first feed it to Notebook LM and ask specific questions I have ("Does this article discuss Horace's meter? Does the article suggest that Horace's meter contributes to a change in the meaning of the poem?"). If LM points something out, it also links me straight to the pages that have that discussion. Now I don't have to read 60 pages but 1 or 2 and the context around that discussion. Nice.

Equipment and Learning How To:

Waywords is entering Year 4 of its 5-year start-up plan, so I've been at this for a while now, learning about new approaches, work flow, programming macros and designing templates, etc. I also produced podcasts with my classroom students for about six years prior to Waywords. I have a ways to go, and new tech changes things constantly. (Also, this is about audio: video and written work are almost entirely different animals depending on the genre: book reviews, lesson plans, books, etc.)

As for the amount of software and equipment, yes, it's a bit more extensive than many have or need, but this is what I have dedicated much of my "retirement" to, so the investment in all this over the years has produced a nice studio (though messy). In general, my purchasing guidelines:

  1. Need over want
  2. Quality (future-proof or enduring) over designed-for-disposal
  3. One-time purchases over subscriptions (getting hard and harder)
  4. DIY or more technical products over EZ conveniences. (Wordpress and Reaper are not for beginners, but they are definitely learnable, and once understood, quite powerful.)
  5. Free plans where possible from companies that have a for-profit model

If you're thinking about getting into this, awesome! There's a ton of powerful reasons (personally and politically and socially) to get into podcasting, and you need not begin with anything like what I have now. I started out with a more primitive Zoom H2, the ATR 2100 mic, some SD cards, and the free Audacity for audio editor. I just uploaded the files to my website (and my school's LMS) to play for a while, but then moved to Podbean (which I do not currently recommend) and later Blubrry. Once I made that move, it all began to get bigger . . . .

I'm no expert, but what I've assembled here is from a lot of research (and even "courses" and books) about what works. I definitely have opinions about the products and methods I'm using! If you have specific interest in any of it, comments, ideas, or questions, please let me know! I'd love to help others with their projects or learn more about what I can do to tighten this up.


More Library and Education Defenses

Today is the birthday of Horace Mann, one of the founders of the American public education system. With Teacher Appreciation week this week, here's some artwork that may be worth spreading


Manifesto In Draft

Last time I talked about scary words like ethics and manifesto around our acts of reading, of teaching and growing literacy.

The first draft of the Reader's Manifesto is out and seeking input between now and the end of May. Would love to see your thoughts on it. If you want to join our "committee" offering feedback, let me know! (Or, if you just want to email me some ideas, that, too!)


If you found this newsletter edition helpful or interesting, or if you'd like me to outline a different project I create or go into more detail somewhere, let me know.

I spent this morning reading the epic of Gilgamesh, a small section of Arendt, and continuing my outline for Journey 6 of Literary Nomads, centered around the Le Guin short story, "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas." If you have thoughts about what I should touch upon along the several episodes we'll be doing there, I would love to hear them: I already have far too many and need to narrow down to what people would like to hear about!

Thanks for reading!

Ahead:

  • The Unwoven Teachers Guide samples
  • Unwoven poetry structure course
  • Lessons from my first self-publishing path
  • Arendt's lessons


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